My husband and I were trying for a family. With Brett Kavanaugh, the first thing he said about him, before any of the allegations, was that they were once on a panel at some alumni thing and that he seemed like a nice guy, which of course started a fight. We had a good time together. And while I think I hate Trump as much as she does, Samantha is much angrier and almost more obsessed with it. I was 29 years old.
And my family would have had to watch that. Back then, Samantha was also much, much, much less engaged in political and civic life. Looking back, it was all very strange.